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A friend of mine recently wondered why they weren't earning 30K in programming, when it seemed like most of their friends were. So I'm curious as to what various people on my friends-list do. If you're not currently working but have done in the past feel free to fill this in with your most recent job in mind. If you don't want to reveal who you are, or if you don't have a livejournal, I'd still be interested in answers as comments instead.
NB Salary in UK pounds please, sorry for not making that clear in the question.
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NB Salary in UK pounds please, sorry for not making that clear in the question.
[Poll #256200]
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Date: 2004-03-01 03:47 pm (UTC)The RS1A scale has ten points on it (officially). No more increments for me, then. :-(
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Date: 2004-03-01 07:04 pm (UTC)The question of being paid "too little" or "too much" is difficult, too. Compared to equivalent UK academics with my experience, I'm paid just about right. Compared to the UK average wage, I'm doing fine, and have money to go travelling etc. Compared to equivalent "professionals," we're doing crap, of course (all the more so because we start earning later). So I ticked "too little," as I think you want comparisons across sectors.
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Date: 2004-03-01 03:47 pm (UTC)GeekProg, 30k, four, sometimes, probably about right
(http://www.jobstats.co.uk/ is relevant)
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Date: 2004-03-01 03:50 pm (UTC)I say about right
Date: 2004-03-01 03:56 pm (UTC)(OTOH, it's incredibly fun and fulfilling, and I'm currently in the process of looking into doing it more formally/longterm. And the hours are good, given that I have to work around school hours anyway.)
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Date: 2004-03-01 04:06 pm (UTC)Then I joined an outsourcing company working in a bank in the City Of London. I got paid close to bank salary rates for a senior Unix SA/engineer (but without bonuses and benefits and stuff) and within 6 months my pay had increased by 50% (pay rise and promotion and thus also qualified for company car allowance or equivalent in money) over the previous job. The industry standard (City geeks) is that much higher than geeking in most other areas. If I worked directly for a bank then I could probably have been paid even more.
Having seen a lot of the programmers in this place, most of them ain't worth 30K :-)
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Date: 2004-03-01 04:07 pm (UTC)At one of my schools the majority of the teachers are earning >40k. At the other, the only one earning less than me is ~15 years younger than me. I'm probably slightly less likely to get punched in the face or accused of abuse, though.
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Date: 2004-03-01 04:32 pm (UTC)I passed my father's final salary (as Head of Sixth Form and Examinations Secretary) several years ago.
"too much" is an interesting question -- I think I'm paid about right by industry standards (particuarly as I haven't actually had a rise for over three years), but I also think that those industry standards pay programmers too much.
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Date: 2004-03-01 04:15 pm (UTC)- Technically I suppose I am a geek, insofar as that my job requires pathologically in-depth knowledge of one particular aspect of the world, but it's not a computer-related part so...
- I don't feel terribly underpaid, but my equivalent job is being advertised this week in SE1 at the band £32,682 to £34,974, so I'm thinking maybe I am.
- No, I'm not applying.
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Date: 2004-03-01 04:58 pm (UTC)This quiz is incomplete without a location entry. London is not Melbourne is not New York is not Sheffield is not Dogshit, Nebraska.
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Date: 2004-03-01 05:13 pm (UTC)I do pretty elementary webmonkeying and minor tech support but have a relatively long history with the company and my limited knowledge of the company's field turns out to be extremely good relative to almost all others. 4 years, 8¾ months. Not very happy, though I like and respect the other people involved in the comapny. Being paid... probably about the right rate (*), but just far less employed than I would like to be.
(*) The sort of webmonkeying that I do is nothing that I couldn't have done at about the age of 14 and so is probably really a minimum wage job these days, but being knowledgeable and informed in the field, moderately able to get along with people and having a reasonably good reputation can justifiably command a premium.
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Date: 2004-03-01 05:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-03-05 03:35 am (UTC)30-40K in UK pounds
7-8 years, I think by now...
Mostly.
Too much given that I read news half the time.
... and given that my real name is easily deduced from my LJ username, I think you know why I'm not putting it on this for Google to find. I'll bet LNR knows who I am anyway.
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Date: 2004-03-01 05:38 pm (UTC)but then, this company is a bunch of hairy collocks anyway. pardon the language.
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Date: 2004-03-01 05:58 pm (UTC)Do you like younger men?
--Susan
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Date: 2004-03-01 08:09 pm (UTC)>40K (does K = 1024 or 1000?)
10+ years
Not Very (looking to change)
About right
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Date: 2004-03-01 08:44 pm (UTC)Another anonymouse earning lots, I'm as curious as
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