weekend

[lnr]

Overall a nice quiet weekend, though I'm not looking forward to work in the morning. The rest seems to have done me some good though, so I guess I just see how it goes.

Kissing Jessica Stein was charming and fun if a bit of a copout in places. Our regular takeaway pizza place seems to be getting worse at getting orders right though. Nice to have pizza anyway, but if I don't lose weight this week I'll know why. Sometimes having a pizza is more important than the rate of getting thin though.

Possibly too early for bed, but I think I'm going to grab some supper and curl up with a book anyway.

Comments

Pizza

[jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com]

You're likely to know, or at least to be able to find out:

Bearing in mind that I know nothing more about Slimming World than what you have mentioned over the weeks, please would you tell me what the informed opinion is on the healthiness or otherwise of a takeaway pizza without cheese? (Specifically: 10", reasonably thin base, tomato sauce, onions, green peppers, black olives, garlic and chunks of tomato. It costs 3.9 Middlesbrough pounds; for the record, it also comes with a free little box of salad: a quarter of a tomato, one mingy slice of cucumber, approximately half of a smallish onion, about half a smallish onion's worth of red cabbage and about half a smallish onion's worth of lettuce.)

I have a theory (actually, it's more of a hope) that a pizza without cheese shouldn't be very fattening at all. Certainly it tastes just as nice, albeit rather different. It was a tip that I once picked up from some vegan friends and would be happy to pass on, if it passes muster.

Re: Pizza

[lnr]

Pizza dough is made of flour, water, salt, yeast and oil. The water is fine, the salt and yeast are neglibible. Unfortunately *anything* made with flour is considered pretty bad: wholemeal better than white but neither very good. And of course the oil isn't much cop either although it's not usually *that* huge an ingredient. So basically as far as Slimming World is concerned the base is the really evil bit, and the cheese, while bad, is fairly incidental and you can even count some of it as part of your allowance of things full of calcium for the day too.

The tomato sauce may have added fat in too, and olives are of course fatty, though not very and the amount on an average pizza is probably not worth worrying about.

A single pizza is half or more of my entire allowance of treats for a week. I do often try and squeeze one in and just have very few treats the rest of the week, but I shouldn't have this week if I was really desperate to keep losing, as I'd already had lots of other nice things. It's not forbidden to be flexible and have more than your usual allowance of sins, provided you think about it in advance and make a real choice to do so, it's just not possible to guarantee you'll still lose weight that week, which is fair enough :-)

Re: Pizza

[jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com]

Aagh! Curses - foiled again!

Thanks for the explanation. I suppose that by extension, garlic bread is also not so good. This is annoying because a good authentic base is one of the nicest parts - by contrast to, say, the make-your-own pizzas you can get from Asda which have the best toppings but bases which have been adapted so that they can be cooked in a home oven.

Of course the theory had to be too good to be true...

Re: Pizza

[lnr]

Well, it's probably still *slightly* less fattening than having it with cheese, so if you just want to make small cut backs then it's not a bad plan. But sorry to be the bearer of bad news anyway :-)

Thin base decent pizza is less bad than dominoes deep-pan stodge at least!

Re: Pizza

[jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com]

On a different-but-related topic, what do you tend to use most frequently for your carbohydrates - or is the point of the diet that you have fewer carbohydrates than most?

Re: Pizza

[lnr]

Two different sorts of day. One with very few carbs: jacket spuds, new spuds, wholemeal pasta are about it, and only in small quantities. The other with *loads*: pasta, rice, spuds, couscous, beans of all sorts of descriptions etc etc. Wholemeal bread is OK on both days in limited amounts. You can have as much lean meat/fish as you like on the first sort, and very limited quantities on the second. I seem to have mostly the second sort of day with some of the first mixed in.

The point of the diet is you can eat lots of things that are filling per calorie and not much of things that aren't very filling. So complex(ish) carbs good, refined flour bad.

Re: Pizza

[jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com]

Very interesting. Thanks for the explanation!

[simonb.livejournal.com]

I have to agree that sometimes its better to have a treat than to worry about loosing weight all of the time. Whilst its possible to make low-sin pizza, its just not the same as real honest to god pizza as you'd get from Pizza Express or similar.

Not that I can eat that stuff anyway these days.... however you can get some very nice wheat/gluten free pizza things from Sainsburys now (which thanks to the flour in them are just as bad as normal pizza, but are nice as a treat)