Smoking ban

[lnr]

Lots of people are talking about the UK plan to totally ban smoking in enclosed public places which was voted through yesterday evening. Most of my friends list who have commented seem keen, though some have reservations. I'm curious as to what those who've not said anything yet feel. Do propogate this as widely as you like. Personally I think it's a good move, though I would have been as happy with the amendment which allowed smoking in private clubs. I do think a total ban in pubs is an excellent step. And no, I don't smoke, though I have in the past been in the "Well... a bit " category. - oh yeah and just to add I am still occasionally tempted if I'm out with one of the few friends who smoke. [Poll #673518]

Comments

Re: Other:

[pippaalice.livejournal.com]

ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!

Why can't you be against a ban on ONE THING and for a ban on ANOTHER thing that is DIFFERENT?

Jesus...

Re: Other:

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

Because once the mechanisms are in place to start banning stuff, each ban gets progressively easier to implement.

Re: Other:

[pippaalice.livejournal.com]

By that logic we should never ban anything...

Re: Other:

[catyak]

Ban bans! That's the obvious answer.

Re: Other:

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

Yep, that should be the default position - with bans on anything only deployed when the evidence is overwhelmingly in favour.

Re: Other:

[pippaalice.livejournal.com]

You are cute and fluffy! :P

Re: Other:

[artela.livejournal.com]

The comment just illustrates that everyone seems fine with banning stuff... right up to the point where it affects something *they* don't want to see banned because if affects *them*.

Re: Other:

[pippaalice.livejournal.com]

I understand the comment. But I *actually* believe that banning fox hunting and smoking in pubs and killing people and various other things are CORRECT! I don't believe banning smoking in the street or indeed completely or eating fatty foods or doing drugs ARE correct. Many of these things barely affect me BTW but I would defend to the death ppls right to do them because I believe those things are actual RIGHTS.

Re: Other:

[artela.livejournal.com]

You have your views, and mine vary.
Personally I think the next thing all the vehement anti-smokers wil be complaining about and trying to get banned next will be the gaggle of people outside the front doors of public houses (i.e. outside) meaning that people have to walk through that fug to get into the pub in the first place.

Re: Other:

[chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com]

So we should reintroduce smoking in hospitals, cinemas, planes etc then?

Re: Other:

[artela.livejournal.com]

Case 1. In a special smoking room with proper air filtration and extraction I see no problem with this - and with proper air filtration and extraction if you have a designated slot where it is "out of use", half of which allows any remaining smoke in the air to get processed, the other half of which allows any cleaners in to the place... well, it's not even a H&S issue as there is no smoke exposure to cleaning staff
Case 2. Our local cinema until very recently allowed smoking upstairs only (on the grounds that this didn't affect the people downstairs)... until some local busybody anti-smoker who doesn't even use the cinema found out about it and decided to get the local council to prohibit it in there - people came from miles and miles around purely because it was a cinema that they _could_ smoke in - they are now on the verge of shutting (small one screen place run by the villagers for the villagers) due to the drop in turnover from the "out of village" trade meaning they now can't afford the upkeep
Case 3. see case 1 - if it is done in a way that allows non-smokers to travel without being affected and so that staff can be sure of clean air when they need to enter between flights, then I see no problem with a small area being sealed from the main passenger deck as an inflight smoking room - I also see no problem with charging smokers for this facility (as there would be a cost associated with it)

All these "black and white" cases could actually be turned grey with a little bit of thought...

Re: Other:

[pippaalice.livejournal.com]

My point isn't that our views vary. It is that one can wish the banning of one thing without being a mental anti smoker or anti everything kind of person!